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    • Hi there,
      I am interested in performing "Performance Based Design" for a 20 story building. 
      I'll be performing "Non-Linear Static Pushover Analysis" for my model. Until now, I have decided to go with "Displacement Co-efficient method". I will be using ETABS 2017 for performing Pushover Analysis. While assigning plastic hinges, I have an option of using ASCE 41-17 (Seismic Evaluation and Retrofit of Existing buildings". I would like to know what would be a better estimate for relative distances for plastic hinges in case of beams, columns. Any input concerning assignment of hinges to beams, columns and shear walls is highly appreciated. Normally it's taken 0.05 and 0.95 or 0.1 and 0.9. What's your opinion on this?
      Secondly, it would be great if someone can recommend me a book or some good source to understand how to characterize building using performance levels. Any sort of help is appreciated.
      I have recently graduated and joined a structural design firm, so kindly guide me, considering me a beginner.

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    • *SEFP Consistent Design*<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#272a34; font-size:14px; text-align:start">*Pile Design*<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#272a34; font-size:14px; text-align:start">*Doc No: 10-00-CD-0007*<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#272a34; font-size:14px; text-align:start">*Date: April 16, 2018*


      Beam-column joint must transfer the forces, such as moment, shear and torsion, transferred by the beam to the column so that the structure can maintain its integrity to carry loads for which it is designed.

      Another function of the beam-column joint is to help the structure to dissipate seismic forces so that it can behave in a ductile manner.

      1.2.WHY DO WE CARE

      During an extreme seismic event, the code-based structure is expected to maintain its load-carrying capacity for gravity loads even after the structure deforms into inelastic range so that it does not pose any life safety hazard. Hence, the joint can go through significant degradation of strength and stiffness, and if it fails in shear, or anchorage, the life-safety objective of code cannot be achieved.



      Longitudinal bars of beams, or slab, must be able to develop their yield stress, so that the beam/slab can transfer moment to joint. It means that longitudinal bars must have adequate development length for hooked bars. This implies that the size of the column must be such that bars can develop their tensile forces. If bars can transfer moment, they can also transfer shear as far as monolithic construction is concerned.

      The shear strength of the joint must enable the transfer of moment and shear through it.

      The joint should be Constructible: Congestion of reinforcement is the main concern.


      The design shear for beam-column joint depends upon the relative strength of beam and column at the joint.

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    • *Comments/Observations regarding modelling in ETABS*

      *Doc No: 10-00-CD-0006*

      *Date: May 06, 2017*

      Some of the observations made during extraction of results from ETABS (v 9.7.4), for design of reinforced concrete members, are being share in this article.,

      1) Minimum Eccentricity

      ETABS always considers the minimum eccentricity for selecting the design moment of columns irrespective of the probable behavior of the column, whether short or long column. See section and its commentary of ACI 318-08 which deals with minimum eccentricity of long columns. You should always check the design moments that ETABS uses for columns if you want to bring down the cost of construction.

      2) Unbraced/ Braced Preference

      ETABS always performs analysis of frame as if it is un-braced. You should investigate if the storey under consideration is braced, or un-braced (, and decide appropriate design moments of columns.

      3) Time Period

      ETABS has a tendency to select a time period of the building that is considerably less than the value obtained by the approximate method, Method A, of the section 1630.2.2  of UBC 97. To quote the FEMA 451 document: ''Because this formula is based on lower bound regression analysis of measured building response in California, it will generally result in periods that are lower (hence, more conservative for use in predicting base shear) than those computed from a more rigorous mathematical model". So, there is no need to use the value of time period that is lot less than Ta. One should always check the time period used by the software; ETABS can overestimate the seismic force by more than 2 times.

      Visit the forum link to read the complete article.
      Link: http://www.sepakistan.com/topic/2300-commentsobservations-regarding-modelling-in-etabs/
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    • The minimum amount and spacing of reinforcement to be used in structural floors, roof slabs, and walls for control of temperature and shrinkage cracking is given in ACI 318 or in ACI 350R. The minimum-reinforcement percentage, which is between 0.18 and 0.20%, does not normally control cracks to within generally acceptable design limits. To control cracks to a more acceptable level, the percentage requirement needs to exceed about 0.60% (REFRENCE ACI COMMITE REPORT 224R-01)





      So according to above statement , should we follow 0.60%, to be on more safe side??

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    • What is the Minimum reinforcement For Precast Pile  according to different codes (ACI,BS)??  Pile length is 40 times of pile least dimension . 
      • 1 reply
    • Dear members, I am working on a 10 storied rcc factory building with one basement,  where floor loads are in general 125 psf(Live) . but there are 2 warehouse in the building at ground floor & 10th floor where the Live load of stacked materials are 450psf. I have modeled it and analysed in ETABS. After analysis, seeing the floor displacement for seismic load,  i am in big shock to see the pattern. the displacement pattern suddenly increased hugely & then got normal . if the warehouse load created problem, then why it effected only Ground floor level, not the 10th floor! Please tell me how can i solve it. 
      • 1 reply
    • Asalamualaikum all,

      I have columns which are conflicting with the underground water tank as shown in figure.

      So I have decided to make underground water tank base slab as a footing for column. So I import etabs model to safe and just take uniform water load on base slab and point load from columns.

      This is the residential house. The BC is 2tsf. But SAFE is showing tension on the base slab and the thickness from punching is 30''. I believe that thickness is too high. What can be the error? Is this approach is correct for design base slab of ugwt to carry load of two edge columns?
      • 11 replies
    • SAFE perform iterative uplift analysis,any one having experience how to check the results of this analysis???what is the purpose and scope of this analysis???
      • 15 replies
    • AOA 

      i am facing problems in shear wall design .what are the pier and spandral ?what will be the difference when we assign pier or spandral? without assigning these the shear wall design is incomplete .

      i am taking about etabsv16

      someone have document about shear wall design plz provide it 

      thank you

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    • Statements are not contradictory. No, you should not details your structure as IMRF in zones 3 and 4. Terms such as IMRF and SMRF refers to the deformation capacity of structural systems after yielding; more deformation capacity is required in zones three and four.
    • Please take a time to read books chapters, papers, reports, and thesis (whatever you can get hold of ) to develop understanding. Learn to read yourself, question yourself, if you truly want to develop knowledge and understanding. Boundary elements, in  a shear wall, are meant to to achieve the following primary functions: 1) ensure that the nominal moment capacity is achieved without buckling 2) to ensure that the appropriate level of ductility will be achieved In addition they can also increase the shear strength as well; this aspect has not been codified yet. If you understand above points, you should get all your answers.
    • What if a boundary element of a shear wall, being part of a dual system (reinforced concrete), is overstressed while using ETABS? (what if boundary element would be poured separately, during the construction stage). Question is, what is the reason for overstress? Secondly, by pouring the boundary element separately from the shear wall, can it still be called boundary element OR it would be considered as a separate column, part of moment-resisting frame? PS. Reinforcement detailing (as per ACI code) is just like boundary element, during design as well as construction stage.
    • I am not sure. Check if the fiber-based interaction diagram is sensitive to the amount of confinement in columns. If confinement is the input, then use the as-built confinement.
    • Thank you. Means I can not go without Phi, my sections are columns and are compression controlled mainly, so 0.8 is the requirement of code. But when i check fiber interaction displayed that show almost double the capacity used in code complied capacity. Couldnt we go for that? Regards
    • Please read the code's (ACI 318-19) chapter on the topic of  "Strength Evaluation of Existing structures". I am attaching the snapshot of relevant part here. If the collected information about the structure satisfies the section 27.3 (ACI 318-19), then you can increase the strength reduction factors.
    • Salam, In a RCC residential building B+G+12, Columns have deficient concrete strength, i have analyzed with deficient concrete and existing steel, in ETABS, if i check interaction diagram, if i check it without phi columns are Ok, but with Phi they have deficiency of D/C 1.13 to 1.3, could I go without phi? Without phi D/C is around 0.8 to 0.9, please guide. Regards
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